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  Scientology Similar to the JW’s.....?

  by Latte in

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  2. beliefs

  scientology seems quite similar to the jws.

  http://www.xenu.net/

  a few snippets from the site.

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  refiners fire

  I tried to join the church to check it out from the inside but I stuffed up the interview. I was asked whether Id ever been on any kind of prescription medication prescribed by a psychiatrist. Soon as I told her "yes", interview over. She told me I couldnt cross "the bridge", I was unsaveable. Scientology uses such extreme methods of mind alteration , including, among other delights - "bullbaiting" (deliberately trying to upset people as a 'test') and "group accusation" scenarios, - that people have suffered emotional breakdowns.

  My understanding of the churches dislike of psychiatry is that, In the 60s the Church was 'persecuted', among other places right here in Melbourne by the state government for their methods of conversion and indoctrination. There was a huge stink. Health professionals, including psychiatrists were involved in the 'persecution', hence the church doesnt like anything to do with mental health professionalism.
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  It Even Happens On Golf Forums! 'Mafioso' techniques to stifle speech

  by Guest 77 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please don't take this information seriously about this site, i just want to show that problems do exist on other forums.

  fluff material, ha ha.. http://www.myrtlebeachgolf.com/departments/features/golf-holiday-forum.htm .

  guest 77.

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  refiners fire

  So they put up a posting forum then thought better of it when someone posted that there wasnt enough ice put in his drink (or whatever)? sheesh.

  As an aside: Thats something Ive never understood about political parties. Why do they insist that all members of the cabinet express the same view and it appear that it is their own view? In other words appearance of uniformity of thought. Why cant a minister say, "I personally disagree with the party line on that issue but it was 70 / 25 in favour" ?? After all, the whole principle is supposed to operate on the will of the majority.
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  Worship Me!

  by Vivamus in

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  i said: worship me!!!.

  dutch district overbeer

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  refiners fire

  welll....

  If we lived on the same piece of land and there wasnt 10,000 miles of water in between, I imagine I would certainly be willing to make my self available for "worship rituals" and "magikal practises" as often as you deemed necessary

  ( and add a few dozen times a week in between)
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  If you could ask the governing body one question, what would it be ???

  by run dont walk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you could walk into brooklyn and face the governing body, and ask one question for them to give a complete answer, what would you ask ??????

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  refiners fire

  One at a time, what are all the skeletons in each of your closets ?
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  Desperate attempt at fluff

  by plmkrzy in

  1. social
  2. humour

  does anyone need to let off some steam?

  post something that made you mad or made you laugh at the kingdom hall lately and we can try to post parables to it.

  this thread has undergone major editting problems.

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  refiners fire

  Plum. they dont call you crazy for nothin' (but i loves you anyway) . "Desperate attempt"... lol. Sis, I must admit. I laughed my ass off at that for ages. ummm. (( I WAS drunk))
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  Say goodbye...Armaggedon 15/ 05/ 03

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.

  apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.

  it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.

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  refiners fire

  Aslief: As I understand it The Greek Gods, Roman Gods and Assyrian Gods,Egyptian Gods, etc etc were all reincarnations of the same ideas over and over. As for Nancy, the Channel, If Id been her I would have just said:

  "Ye shall have no sign save the sign of Jonah....the Lord must test thee, sift thee as wheat". Its worked lots of times before. If only SOMETHING had happened on one of the predicted dates, a massive earthquake say, she could have maybe got away with it.
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  What Is The Most Popular Belief That Suckers People To Become JW's?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  what do you think it is?

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  refiners fire

  Mini, as you suggest. yes. A reader of the history of Jim Jones will discover that he was a deeply moral man in pursuit of a loving utopia, a man obsessed with eradicating suffering. Very many cult founders are like this. I think CT Russell was of a similar bent, a pursuer of holiness. And the followers are motivated by the same thing.
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  What Is The Most Popular Belief That Suckers People To Become JW's?

  by minimus in

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  what do you think it is?

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  refiners fire

  Whenever I talk to them and start to question them intensely most of them tell me that the dubs dont go to war, hence they are loving, and they dont involve themselves in wicked politics , or lie, or steal, and thus are superior in moral decency to others.

  I think the thing that draws people to join is an urge to pursue a moral life, a striving after holiness, a concept especially appealing to the guilty, the sinful.
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  Say goodbye...Armaggedon 15/ 05/ 03

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.

  apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.

  it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.

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  refiners fire

  The "Channel" interviewed on Lou Gentile Radio on Friday night. Dont you wish you could get the GB up in front of the microphone??

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  Gentile: Ok, I have a question for the Zetas.
  
  Lieder: OK
  
  Gentile: And I want them to, this particular question, I think, they
  owe it to the people, so that the people aren't distraugyt and think
  that , uh, that they're crazy.
  
  Lieder: Alright.
  
  Gentile: And, I think that the Zetas should answer it as quickly as
  they possibly can...
  
  (Channel) Lieder: Your question is?
  
  Gentile: ..without any possible delay. And if they are, because it
  sounds like they're very knowledgable, sounds like they're very
  intelligent.... correct? I mean...
  
  Lieder: Are you still fishing for this proof that they exist?
  
  Gentile" I...
  
  Lieder: Is that what you're aiming for here?
  
  Gentile: Nancy, these people want to see it, these people want to see
  the proof. And I think this is a very easy test to see if these Zetas
  are who they say they are, because they should rattle this right off.
  
  Lieder: OK...so....
  
  Gentile: Because they're quick to answer everything else.
  
  Lieder: OK.. And you just posed the question and I'm supposed to
  answer it...
  
  Gentile: No... no,no,no.... I'm going to pose the question.
  
  Lieder: Alright, and the question is?
  
  Gentilie: The question is, I need to know the answer... to 789 times
  456.. ( 789x456=? )
  
  Lieder: Oh... This is Zetatalk. Our translator does not speak Greek.
  She doesn't speak fast very well either.. nor does she speak Russian.
  Umm, unfortunately, um, you have asked her to translate math. And,
  this would take a while for the concept of this to form in her mind....

  Oh dear.
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  Desperate attempt at fluff

  by plmkrzy in

  1. social
  2. humour

  does anyone need to let off some steam?

  post something that made you mad or made you laugh at the kingdom hall lately and we can try to post parables to it.

  this thread has undergone major editting problems.

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  refiners fire

  You are the good lookin yellow one then?? Im glad we cleared that up. I was starting to become turned on by

  some of the background imagery .

  Yeah, this threads a real wow alright. the hungry masses are clamouring

  

  to get on board THIS ONE!